“It’s the ‘fool me once, fool me twice’ point,” Mr. Carney said. “Once you see that, then you start to think, how do I diversify away?”

 

Carney Lays Out His Vision for Breaking Canada’s Reliance on U.S.

In a wide-ranging interview, Prime Minister Mark Carney described a tense, evolving relationship with President Trump.

By Matina Stevis-GridneffDavid E. SangerTyler Pager and Colby Smith

Matina Stevis-Gridneff is Canada bureau chief. David E. Sanger and Tyler Pager cover the White House. Colby Smith covers the Federal Reserve. They were among Times journalists who interviewed Mr. Carney in New York.

Sept. 23, 2026